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Why Dems Want This Congressman Arrested

Democrats in South Carolina are seeking an investigation into Republican U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman after he placed his revolver on a table during a meeting with constituents.

As part of his regular series of informal Coffee With Your Congressman meetings, Norman placed his loaded .38-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver on the table while speaking with gun control advocates from Moms Demand Action last Friday morning at the Rock Hill Diner. This triggered a call from South Carolina Democratic Party chair Trav Robertson to request a State Law Enforcement Division investigation, arguing the Norman may have broken the law.

“As any truly responsible gun owner knows, you cannot brandish your weapon without an imminent threat,” Robertson said. “This is a felony offense and punishable by up to five years in prison.”

In response, 16th Circuit Solicitor Kevin Brackett has distanced himself from a possible prosecution of Norman saying, “There was no criminal intent here,” while SLED has announced only that they will review the request from Robertson.

Norman, for his part, contends he did nothing wrong, that he has a valid concealed weapons permit, the diner had no policy against firearms and he believes no laws were broken. He even said the gun control advocates at the time did not act distressed by the revolver.

“At no point did anyone at our meeting say they were threatened, nor did anyone leave early,” Norman said. “In fact, we continued with our discussion, laughed, smiled, shook hands and snapped pictures together.”

The advocates involved later released a statement that the Republican had made them feel unsafe and that his action “was a far cry from what responsible gun ownership looks like.”

Norman told the Post and Courier after the incident that he showed off the gun in an attempt to make a point that firearms are not the problem in gun violence.

“I’m not going to be a Gabby Giffords. I don’t mind dying, but whoever shoots me better shoot well or I’m shooting back,” he said, referring to the former Congresswoman’s 2011 shooting in Arizona. This drew its own rebuke from the Giffords organization and Republican U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake, who represents Arizona in the Senate, the latter of which said the comment was “inappropriate and inconsiderate.”

51 Comments

  • justdave

    There is nothing worse than professional offense takers. I hope that the gun grabbers noticed that the revolver did not jump up from the table and start shooting people by itself.

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    • FedUP15232

      Whatever happened to “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”? I find these idiots who take offense at everything offensive themselves.

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  • gary

    I’d sooner he put his revolver on the table than bring a vicious dog with him uncontrolled !!! as a business man for 40+ years I can honestly say, I’ve never had a gun jump up and attack me, unless a person holding it pointed it at me in some unwarranted anger.
    I can also say I’ve had to take 7 men including my self to the emergency room because some vicious dog uncontrolled by it’s owner attacked me or my employees with out any cause. why? cause a dogs a animal with a brain and one theory of life! when in doubt bit someone!! guns don’t have brains and no theory of anything. so with one laying on the table it’s no threat at all!!!! where a vicious dog laying in the corner is a constant threat and you never know when it will attack you !!! for no reason at all !!!!! one last note: when someone invites you into their home, they have a legal requirement to see to your safety. that included seeing to it, that their vicious dog does not attack you!! and if it dose? you have every right to defend yourself from it by any means possible. when you do defend yourself !!! they have no right at all to attack you because you stopped the dog attack with say pepper spray,(which work very good on dogs, I know!!) and I had a few cases where the owner then came at me, because I stopped the dog attack, they got the rest of the pepper spray in their face. YES, the cops backed me up on it’s use. filing it as self-defense. and in 3 cases arrested the owner and animal control took the dog away. that’s the law and how it should be enforced !!!! having a gun and simply showing it to someone is not a crime!!! using it without reasonable cause is a crime!!!! that’s why I keep mine concealed and don’t tell anyone I’m carrying it , unless it’s needed. then it comes out smoking!!!

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  • billjohnso20

    While I would not have placed my loaded handgun on a table unless I was in my own home, I understand the point he was trying to make. The problem with that is that the anti-gun crowd will never understand the point that a good guy with a gun is not a threat. To them, anyone with a gun is a threat. I work with members of the anti-gun crowd regularly while I am carrying concealed. Showing them my firearm will never lead to anything good because those snowflakes will overreact and claim that I am a threat to them regardless of the fact that they feel perfectly safe when they have no idea I am carrying a gun.

    Rep. Ralph Norman has forgotten what Reagan said about liberal Democrats when he said, “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.” Logic has nothing to do with the viewpoint of most liberals. They “know” guns are dangerous. They “know” that gun control laws keep people safer. They “know” that the Trump tax cut raises the taxes of the middle class and poor. They “know” that AR-15 Assault Rifles are “semi-automatic machine guns.” They “know” that it is only a matter of time till the guns in my gun safe are going to kill someone and must be restricted. Absolutely nothing that they “know” is real. In their minds, Ergo, Rep. Ralph Norman threatened their lives when he placed his revolver on the table.

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    • david 56387

      “Don’t pick up that butter knife!” “Why?” “Well because you are 4 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier than I am. You might hurt me with it, I am frightened and feel threatened.” “Oh?! OK, here, here is my legally owned and carried pistol, you can hold that on me while we eat.”

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    • Lester E. Martin Jr.

      The “egomaniac, anti-gun, gun grabbing snowflakes are a threat to society, but it’s illegal to dispose of them as they would dispose of our guns ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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  • JimZimmerman

    What in the world was he thinking??? That was a highly irresponsible thing to do. If he has a CCL then he should know that brandishing your firearm is a nono. Even if he THOUGHT that it wasnt a big deal people are intimidated by that firearm. If he did it to intimidate someone than he should have his CCL revoked. Politician or not. I would have told him to holster his firearm or have an assistant remove it. Very childish and more meat for the antigunners with whom he was meeting. Stupid.

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    • Rick Vitti

      Explain brandishing.

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      • JimZimmerman

        Displaying your firearm with the intent of intimidating . While i dont believe he intended to intimidate these people i think it was juvenile of him to pull his pistol and leave it on the table during a meeting with antigunners. These were strangers to him, not friends, and a responsible ccl holder would not have done that. The article states that no one at the meeting said anything but afterwards indicated that they felt intimidated. Thus a brandishing charge could have been leveled at him.Would you pull your pistol and leave it on a table among strangers? That to me would be like leaving it in the stall of a toilet in a bar. I carry a pistol everyday but i dont pull it out and leave it on the belt of the grocery store. I understand what you are saying Rick but i personally think this was irresponsible behaviour for someone that should have known better.

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      • Tom Flores

        I copied this from VA law. Kind of splitting hairs that someone was in fear of being shot. Myself I think it was in poor taste but I just do not see the fear factor in taking it out and laying in on the table. But that is me I’m not a dumbocrat that thinks the firearm is going to jump off the table and go on a shooting rampage!

        It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish
        any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured.

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        • David

          Correct – the determining word here is “reasonably” ! DumboCrat HissyFlakes are INCAPABLE of “REASON” therefor the law cannot be broken in their exclusive presence.

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  • Rick Vitti

    More politicians should carry guns. Oh my goodness the man has a gun everyone run for your lives …the sky is falling. You demoncrapds have ALL gone completely insane. Just becasue you LOST you can no longer accept ANYTHING that has been normal in our FREE Country.

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  • Ken Westover

    I don’t care what the quiver-lips think.

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  • Jerry

    What he did is against the law, you cannot brandish your firearm without a threat, any normal person would have already been arrested by now now, I am a Republican but the law needs to apply to everyone the same

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    • Tom Flores

      While in bad taste it is not brandishing a weapon unless he was waving it around or pointing it at someone. Just take it from the holster and laying it on the table is not brandishing it.

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      • Jerry

        See I thought that showing your firearm, intentional or not could be considered brandishing? I don’t know all the laws so it is possible it’s not considered that, but if you belive my definition it will keep you out of trouble in case, you are correct in the fact it was very bad taste

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        • Tom Flores

          You have kind of a broad definition if by showing you mean removing the firearm from a holster could be. Now I live in an open carry state but there are people who would say that having a firearm on your hip is brandishing. I know of one person who carried his unloaded firearm into a supermarket just to see what would happen sure enough one of the customers called the police after getting no where with store management. The Police arrived briefly question him and did chastise for charring it unloaded.

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  • Roger Van

    I personally would have brought a crossbow to the meeting all cocked and ready to rock, to make my point. I’m getting fed up with the Liberals and Democrats all crying about controlling our lives and those items we own. I would love to see some native Americans use their bows to put some of these people back in their places with an arrow. All the whining from the Left is pushing me over the edge, and I may need to use a baseball bat to knock a few heads to have them come to their senses. Talk is cheap, so lets all start knocking on some of their heads please. Lets show them that guns are not the problem, it’s a baseball bat to the side of their heads. Then who are they going to blame, Louisville Sluggers????

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  • Joseph Anthony

    Who cares he proved a point and the libtards fell for it. If you don’t like firearms fine – don’t be a p***y about it. A few points:
    1. Any actor that has made money with firearms in action movies or any other production- needs to donate the money they received to a charity.
    2. If you don’t believe in the right to own guns voluntarily surrender your 2nd Amendment rights permanently. This goes for Libtard central in Hollywood, Congress and to the gutless wonder millennials (they can throw tide pods in self defense or the condom after they snort it.)
    3. Armed guards should be prohibited to the elected that don’t like firearms. 4.Bloomberg and Soros should be prohibited from having armed security.
    5. A “Practice what you preach act” should be passed then enforced.
    I could go on all day..

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  • Ronald Hagler

    My, my, my: an offended Democrat. Who’d a thunk it!

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    • Tom Flores

      Well they do have a legitimate complaint they got so scared that they wet them selves and the restaurant had to mop up after them!! 🙂

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    • Lester E. Martin Jr.

      I think they should offend “ALL DEMONIC-RATS’ by placing them in handcuffs, jailed and then be tried for treason and then publicly “HANGED FOR TREASON” wonder if that would really offend them ! ! ! ! !

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  • Murray Massel

    I make it a point to check the gun laws in any state that I may pass through or visit, to at least make sure that they recognize my concealed carry permit, and if there are any restrictions to my hunting weapons if I intend to hunt in that state. South Carolina is a shall issue state for concealed carry, but it is not an open carry state for handguns. The law is unclear as to whether a concealed carry permit holder can carry his hand gun open carry or not, but in most states that don’t permit open carry, it is against the law for your weapon to be visible, and in some cases you can’t even show an imprint. So Mr. Norman may very well have broken the law, depending on how South Carolina interprets their concealed carry law. As law abiding gun owners, we should make it our business to know the laws in other states that we visit, to insure that we abide by their laws. Above all, we shouldn’t take our gun out of the holster unless we need it. The 45 in my profile pic is what I carry, and the picture is a show of support for our 2nd Amendment, but I carry it concealed, even though my home state of Louisiana is an open carry state. If you can legally own a gun in Louisiana, you can open carry it, no permit required. Good luck Rep. Norman.

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  • CompletelyOutsane

    Secession time y’all? Divide USA up, freeloaders, proglibtards, and socialists have theirs with BigA$$ government. Liberty lovers have theirs with limited, VERY limited government. Good luck.

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  • Timothy Toroian

    Like the old saying goes, “when someone is breaking into your house you’re not calling Ghost Busters, you call a cop with a GUN!!!

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    • Ginger

      and they will arrive 30 minutes later and you are dead!

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      • Timothy Toroian

        Had a cousin who was sheriff in Virginia. He had such a small force to cover a county that had few municipal forces it was sad, but suggested household arms but since it was hunting country that wasn’t a problem. Virtually all my relatives there had at least one arm in the house. Right now I live in a restricted apartment building with GOoD dead bolts for each apartment. If I lived elsewhere I have a .44 with 2oo grain very hollow point slugs that stay where you put them.

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  • Russ Ackerman

    Trav Robertson needs to get out of public office. He does NOT deserve to be a politician in the greatest country, and Republic, in the world!!!

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  • higgy01

    This clown Robertson THINKS Norman might have broken a law. In other words he is a ranking democrat official and probably one of the gun grabbers but doesn’t know the laws governing firearms in S. Carolina. Very sad. I’ll bet this Robertson even thinks there is such a thing as an assault rifle.

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  • rottenrollin

    First:. “Brandishing” is by definition waving a weapon about in a threatening manner.

    Second;. I take it NO ONE at the meeting where “brandished” were wetting their pants or their doilies?

    Third. Liberals and Dimmercrats are SUCH a-holes.

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  • HapKlien

    I get offended every time I see a firearm used violently on my TV screen, I get offended because I know the producers of the programs are anti-gun, I get offended because I know kids watching the violent gun productions are being conditioned towards firearm violence. I don’t get offended knowing that the NRA and it’s members don’t make these violent movies.

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    • Lester E. Martin Jr.

      We don’t need gun control we need criminal control and that includes all mentally unstable people… there the ones who do the damage ! ! ! ! We also need gun grabber control (“DEMONIC-RATS AND COMMIES”) are you listening ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

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  • TadhgMcLir

    I Might have said “I have a license and I am carrying – do you want to see it, or would you rather not?”
    To just “drop it on the table” was a bit abrupt and could have caused a problem.

    My personal preference would be not to mention it at all without specifically being asked.

    Pun intended: “Guns can trigger some people.”

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    • Lester E. Martin Jr.

      Especially “DEMONIC-RATS” they get triggered by the slightest little things, what a bunch of whimpy, whiney spoiled rotten brats ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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      • TadhgMcLir

        Amen.
        Side note, did you have a – Grandmother? Great-Grandmother – something that lived in the Joliet IL area back in the late 30s / early 40s?

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  • David

    More paranoea from the HissyFlakes – ignore it and it will eventually dry without a stain.

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  • Walter H Richters

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YEH AND RINO FLAKE …………THE FLAKEY RINO DEM LOVING SOB………GOOD THING HE WASN’T THERE……………..FLAKEY WOULD PROBABLY PASSED OUT. ………..AND AS FOR MCCAIN…………I DON’T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY DANGER………I NEVER HEARD OF “WET-STARTING” A REVOLVER. NOW IF YOU WANT TO KILL 134 SAILORS AND NAVY FLYERS………….THEN JOHNNY BOY WOULD BE YOUR MAN. HOT DOGGING KILLER.

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  • Ginger

    Flake is a FLAKE and I hope he gets voted out! RINO!

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  • equestrian_colt

    F the Tu Tu wearing anti everything whiny cry baby drama god government anus sucking coward Libtard sheeple. They all need to be rounded up and put on cargo ships to North Korea or China or shot their choice.

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    • Lester E. Martin Jr.

      Just make sure the ” CARGO SHIPS HAVE HOLES IN THE HULLS AND NO LIFEBOATS OR JACKETS SO THEY WON’T EVER COME BACK TO CAUSE ANYMORE TROUBLE” ! ! ! ! !

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  • AC1USNRetired

    Did Rep. Norman explain to the constituents he was putting the gun on the table just to find out if the gun would act on it’s own?

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  • John Jr Landgraver

    “We are in control . Your thought are ours , your actions are ours , your body functions are ours .” Hey Folks ! The left is way worse than 1984 IMHO ! God Bless

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  • equestrian_colt

    All Libtards should be arrested and tried for TREASON AND TYRANNY.

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  • Roy Fredrichsen

    GEE! I didn’t know you could offend a Democrat. They are always insulting the Replicans for abandoming the O’Bama Care policies that kept everybody broke and in debt.

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